05-12-10 – Happy Farktography Anniversary 5

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  • #27415
    ravnostic
    Participant

    I might have to recind that statement; Extremely energized ionized hydrogen coupled with similarly excited oxygen could product the yellow-green seen there (same as the Rosetta nebula). But even so; a picture of not nearly this quality is found here;

    http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/News/MegaPrime/MegaPrime-PR-AstroImage-Rosette.html

    …and it’s stacked of 36 images, exposed 5 minutes each. I didn’t find the Hubble match, but then, the hubble site is emmense and it’s likely the guy’s shot is just a cropped portion of a larger image. Personally, I would delete it and then wait for his response to validate his picture. But I don’t think he can, and there’s no way it’s not at least a stacked composite, which goes against the rules.

    The other possibility is he’s one of the super-lucky persons who’s submitted an idea for Hubble and got it–but even then, he wouldn’t be the one taking the picture.

    #27416
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    Are stacks of separately filtered exposures how they typically make those images whether from Hubble or Palomar or wherever?

    #27417
    ravnostic
    Participant

    Well, not with 36 of them. Usually it’s just a stack of red, blue and violet filters (for hydrogen balmer lines, or green, for oxygen ion lines). Taking a shot in each of the three eliminates possible chromatic abberations, which is the nature of glass to only focus on one color in the spectrum (you only notice such things in highly magnified instances, such as in telscope views). Most good quality lenses have two types of glass, to focus two wavelengths of light, but the third would still be out of focus. So by doing them one color at a time, each color is in perfect focus. There are instances where they do more, though, such as Hubble’s ultra-deep field, where they stacked two hour exposures over and over to create an image with over a million seconds (10 days) exposure time. Stacking for amateurs is mostly used to increase resolution and eliminate noise, ala use-a-web-cam-and-let-the-computer-compile-the-clearest-shots. This will get you down below that 1/2 arc second limit by up to 10fold, which is huge.

    This shot was certainly not composed that way. And unless he has a $10k (or more) polar mount, there would be at least some vibration caused by the little gears keeping the skypoint in view. But who knows? Perhaps he has a really, really, really awesome telescope. I just can’t picture that picture not being something from a professional telescope. It’s just too damned good; the detail is far more than one would expect from an amateur. This, for example, is an image from Palomar:

    http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0509/IC1396_demartin_f.jpg

    Taken through a 48″ telescope, it’s more what one expects to see when astropicing.

    #27418
    ravnostic
    Participant

    Here’s one taken through a 200 inch telescope using adaptive optics (to reduce atmospheric distortion), showing Neptune. And it’s still a bit fuzzy.

    #27419
    bucky_bacon
    Participant

    Looking at the top 10 right now… soosh, swampa, u-man, elsinore, ranger joe… me? One of these things is not like the others. Ha.

    Which also has me wondering… where is orionid?

    #27420
    olavf
    Participant

    Looking at the top 10 right now… soosh, swampa, u-man, elsinore, ranger joe… me? One of these things is not like the others. Ha.

    Which also has me wondering… where is orionid?

    He and kestrana are sans internets this weekend I believe.

    #27421
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    ravnostic: Good to know, thanks for the info. I’ve only scratched the surface of astrophotography. Looks like he acknowledged it was a stack, so I’ve disabled voting on it. It may need to be deleted outright to make sure it doesn’t register in the FSM…I’ll keep an eye on it.

    And crap…I wish orionid and kestrana could have pulled together some OBOs….

    #27422
    olavf
    Participant

    I only found out this AM when she commented on my FB page, but I responded saying that if they wanted to send out some links that we’d be happy to do so.

    #27423
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    Hope they can!!

    #27424
    ravnostic
    Participant

    OBOs?

    #27425
    swampa
    Participant

    On Behalf Of

    #27426
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    Ohh those were good OBO picks, guys.

    #27427
    justkat
    Participant

    Thanks. 😛

    Lol I know you weren’t talking to me. Actually while I did make some suggestions just because they couldn’t even look at their profiles, kestrana, at least, had something in mind on her own. Anyhoo, it’s done, they got to play. Kestrana says they will have internet on Tuesday, so in time for next contest!

    Schnee pretty please take note! kestrana and orionid need pictures swung onto their profiles from mine. 3 each. Just leave me the three with the most votes. 😆

    #27428
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    Yeah I need to fix OBO’s for several entries in the past month or 6 weeks…unless schnee gets to them first.

    #27429
    olavf
    Participant

    Elsinore, can you restore my broken?

    It may well go down again, ’cause we seem to be having server issues tonight that I can’t quite figure out – may have something to do with posting twelve pictures in a greenlit thread, but I dunno yet.

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