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November 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm #41422
ravnostic
ParticipantDidn’t you have some film stuff you shot this summer?
I do, I did, but it’s all ‘meah.’
However, it seems I’m awake (I’ll regret being so at 6am tomorrow), so I’ll head over and see how these two rolls came out. I can also grab from the archive shoe box, but I’m not anticipating having anything there I’ll like. We’ll see what happens, though. I have a b/w of snow at night I took in college, as well, if I can find it.
November 9, 2011 at 8:40 pm #41423olavf
Participantrav I shot a 24ex roll last night and running it through the 1-hour this afternoon. Maybe some ancient shots floating around, but all or nothing, really. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
November 9, 2011 at 9:55 pm #41424ParticipantI got my 3. Not particularly happy with them; I seem to have misplaced an entire box of photos somewhere. And the ones I just took? Crap. All crap. I either need to get something more current than a 1940’s Argus or just stop shooting film all together.
November 9, 2011 at 10:18 pm #41425
orionidParticipantor get something older, with more character. 😛 😀
November 9, 2011 at 11:19 pm #41426Curious
ParticipantI’ve got stuff that I shot back in the 80’s that I was really looking forward to going through and scanning. Unfortunately, it and my scanner are 1500 miles away right now.
Good luck everyone!
my stuff by and large is in the other room and the scanner is besides me. just couldn’t get excited about going through all of it for what, half a dozen votes?
then i decided that there is one flower photo i particularly like. and one photo from my russia trip that stands out. so i have two and will stop with them.
November 9, 2011 at 11:35 pm #41427Zero_Exponent
ParticipantReading the comments, I see I’m not the only one having a bit of a hard time with this one. My plan for this theme was to shoot 3 rolls with 3 different film cameras, and enter one from each roll.
What actually happened was, I’ve been sick with flu-like symptoms for the past two weeks, and only managed to get out and shoot one roll with my Pentax with a 50mm f2.8 lens. The battery that powers the light meter was dead, and the replacement is around $16–so I shot test shots in manual with my digital, to approximate the settings I would need for the film images. That kinda worked, but most came out too dark.
Having only used this particular camera a few times ever–and that at least five years ago–I could not figure out how to rewind the film back into the roll so I could get it developed. No matter what combination of buttons and knobs I tried, it wasn’t happening. In desperation, I just took the whole thing down to Superstore in hopes that they could help.
The kid at the counter says, “my dad used to have one like that” I say, “oh he had a pentax?” The kid says, “no, I mean he had one of those big film cameras.” Oy. Anyway, he offers to take it to the darkroom and try to get the film out. I agree, and he comes out about ten minutes later. “I managed to rewind it, but I couldn’t get it open.” I asked him, “are you sure you rewound it? You should feel a change in the tension of the winding wheel when the film is fully back in the roll.” He assured me that this was the case (LIAR!).
I am pretty sure I remember how to open the camera body, so I try it right there at the counter … thankfully I couldn’t get it open, because I later found out the kid had not in fact rewound the roll. Before I go, I ask about developing. “Uh, we don’t do that here anymore, we send it away to a lab and it takes about two weeks.” Uh, how about NO.
On the way home, it occurs to me that maybe the kid didn’t really rewind the roll, so when I do crack the camera body open, I’d better do it in the dark. I take the camera into the bathroom and shut the door. I cannot see my hand in front of my face, so I start playing with the camera trying to open it. Eventually it yields to my efforts, and sure enough, I can feel a bunch of film hanging out. I wind it back in by hand and take the roll to a place (one of three in the entire city, apparently) that does have a developer onsite. “Do you do one-hour photos?” I ask. “We do, but the machine is shut down for the day.” she replies. The photo counter is open until six, but they shut the machine down between 1pm and 3pm daily for some reason. This was last thursday, so I had no problem waiting a day for my prints.
When I got them back, the price was cheaper that I expected–because only twelve of the negatives were usable. I’m guessing what little light there was in my bathroom was enough to ruin the end of the roll before I could wind it back. Sonuva …
Long story longer, I have one shot good enough to enter from that fiasco. One or two more archive shots may end up in the contest, haven’t decided yet.
I’ve got nothing like the selection orionid has, and most of my faves on film have already been entered in previous contests, so its gonna be slim pickins, ah reckon.
November 9, 2011 at 11:44 pm #41428orionidParticipantAnd on the note of not finding b/w film, mods,–is it okay to take pictures with b/w in mind, then scan them as such, or is that going too far from ‘film’. I just shot a roll that I’d envisioned in b/w until I found nobody carries it (except one shop too far away to drive to). I shot it anyway.
B/W conversions are always fine.
My opinion differs from orionid’s. I think the spirit of the theme is pretty strict.
But, honestly and truly, it’s just an opinion. And it’s not even a strong one, at that.
I concur. The photos should be entered as shot on film. Any digital manipulation should be limited to that needed to scan or otherwise convert to digital media, crop to the print/slide/negative itself, and (if desired) clean up scratches or dust from the scanning/conversion process or on the slides/negatives/prints. If you’re then converting a color photo to black and white or otherwise manipulating it, it becomes less about the shot you got on film and more about what you can do digitally with the image. That’s not what this theme was about. If, however, you wanted to convert color film to b/w in the dark room, as Yugoboy mentioned is possible, I think that would be in the spirit of the theme. Doing it in Photoshop (or GIMP) falls outside of that as the theme very specifically says,
“no digital nonsense”
Okay, I’ll concede to the point, even though I read “no digital nonsense” as no digital cameras.
But now I have to ask, would this then DQ any of my shots from Kodak BW400CN (a c-41 process black and white film, with the standard RA-4 balanced orange gel) if I scanned them as color? I’ve done this pretty much since I discovered the stuff, because it gives it a slight sepia hue.
Also, Zero_Exponent, that sucks. Seriously.
November 9, 2011 at 11:53 pm #41429ennuipoet
ParticipantFilm is a labor, now it is a labor of love for some, but a lot of damn work not matter how you go about it. Soon, very soon, the photo machines will be gone from stores as the profit margin on keeping them running evaporates. I shot three rolls for tonight and didn’t around to running them through the tanks because…well…it’s a lot of work. I’ve built up and extensive scanned film archive as I work my way through boxes of slides and negatives, which again…is a lot of work.
I don’t blame anyone for sitting out tonight. Shooting analog in a digital world just isn’t simple any more.
November 10, 2011 at 12:20 am #41430aspidites
ParticipantFilm is a labor, now it is a labor of love for some, but a lot of damn work not matter how you go about it. Soon, very soon, the photo machines will be gone from stores as the profit margin on keeping them running evaporates. I shot three rolls for tonight and didn’t around to running them through the tanks because…well…it’s a lot of work. I’ve built up and extensive scanned film archive as I work my way through boxes of slides and negatives, which again…is a lot of work.
I don’t blame anyone for sitting out tonight. Shooting analog in a digital world just isn’t simple any more.
It is getting damn near impossible for me to get anything developed anymore. I never really shot negatives, always shot slide film. I only have 1 place near me that develops it and I don’t trust them not to fark it up. My only other option is to mail it out.
Luckily I have a hard drive with slide scans that I found for this one. I still like the way that the Provia and the Velvia come out over the digital, but since the places I submit for paying work won’t take anything but digital files I just don’t shoot the slides anymore.
November 10, 2011 at 12:23 am #41431Kestrana
ParticipantIt’s true it’s more work but oh what fun it is to get the negatives and see what turned out. My parents used to shoot 2-3 rolls of film a week in the ’80s and ’90s. Going to pick up the photos at Osco was a weekly ritual. And AFAIK in my mom’s line of work they still use film for their reports because they have to be admissible in court and for property damage digital is not allowed because it is too easily altered.
November 10, 2011 at 12:23 am #41432ParticipantAlso, Zero_Exponent, that sucks. Seriously.
I was going for laughs, not sympathy–but i’ll take it 🙂
Also, ravnostic: I’ve got 4 rolls of Kodak TMAX Pro 400ISO B+W(expired 05/2007). I could probably be easily persuaded to part with one or all of them …
November 10, 2011 at 12:25 am #41433Plamadude30k
ParticipantSo it turns out that I left my film camera (and, of course, all the film I’ve shot-which is not much) on the mainland. Do’h.
November 10, 2011 at 12:25 am #41434orionidParticipantFilm is a labor, now it is a labor of love for some, but a lot of damn work not matter how you go about it. Soon, very soon, the photo machines will be gone from stores as the profit margin on keeping them running evaporates. I shot three rolls for tonight and didn’t around to running them through the tanks because…well…it’s a lot of work. I’ve built up and extensive scanned film archive as I work my way through boxes of slides and negatives, which again…is a lot of work.
I don’t blame anyone for sitting out tonight. Shooting analog in a digital world just isn’t simple any more.
It is getting damn near impossible for me to get anything developed anymore. I never really shot negatives, always shot slide film. I only have 1 place near me that develops it and I don’t trust them not to fark it up. My only other option is to mail it out.
Luckily I have a hard drive with slide scans that I found for this one. I still like the way that the Provia and the Velvia come out over the digital, but since the places I submit for paying work won’t take anything but digital files I just don’t shoot the slides anymore.
EVERYONE should shoot at least one roll of Velvia 50 during their lifetime. Especially now that kodachrome’s been round-filed.
November 10, 2011 at 12:31 am #41435Elsinore
KeymasterBut now I have to ask, would this then DQ any of my shots from Kodak BW400CN (a c-41 process black and white film, with the standard RA-4 balanced orange gel) if I scanned them as color? I’ve done this pretty much since I discovered the stuff, because it gives it a slight sepia hue.
With the BW400CN, due to the nature of it being color film that turns b/w, I don’t have any issues with scanning it anyway that works that isn’t turning it into something it isn’t (e.g. true /full spectrum color to b/w). It kind of confuses my scanner, and sometimes I have to play games with getting it to scan reasonably well, like lying to it and telling it it’s b/w slide film or some such. My scanner *really* wigged out when I scanned the expired cross processed slide film…I’m not going to end up using any of those because I couldn’t get them to scan well. The prints looked better than the negatives scanned, but I didn’t love any of them strongly enough to spend any further time on them.
November 10, 2011 at 12:56 am #41436ParticipantI’m going to try to sneak my shots in myself before I start work. I have a 9 minute window to work with.
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