06-24-09 – Homeless Images, Free to a Good PS’er

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  • #22914
    laz-long
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    Are we going to have a guide on what’s photoshop friendly again?

    Here are my suggestions, which are just one person’s perspective. I’d encourage other PS’ers that are reading this to chime in as well… Also, I’ll post something on the PSAEF forum asking for more feedback. It can’t hurt, eh?

    All of these characteristics add to the potential of a source image when I’m searching for something to work with.

    – The higher the resolution the better, with something like 800×800 being the minimum if I’m cutting something out of the image to be added to another image. The process of pulling an element out, resizing, re-shaping (perspective tool), and adjusting color levels all tend to introduce blurring or other distortions. So starting with a larger image helps hide those artifacts. So providing a link to a bigger version for this one is definitely a plus.

    – The larger the depth of field the better. As much as a love artistic, abstract photos where only a small window is in focus, it’s hard to turn them into something else. Adding to them is painful since you have to simulate various degrees of in/out focus. And pulling elements out if hard since they aren’t likely to be completely in focus.

    – If there’s an element (or elements) that are the core focus of the image, which PS’ers will probably want to cut out and put in another image, those element(s) should be completely visible and not cropped by the edge of the photo. If the focal element(s) are entirely captured in the frame, then there should be a clean/obvious way to cut out the element and have it make sense without the bits that got left behind. So if “supporting imagery”, as opposed to the main focus, is between the camera and the main focus of the photo such that it partially obscures the main elements that makes more work for the PS’er. It’s harder to cut out and might require them to construct missing bits, which can be a pain.

    – Good lighting, meaning where you get a wide contrast range without overexposure or underexposure is great. Combining images together often involves match colors, bright/contrast levels, and levels of blurring. If the source your working with covers a wide range of light/dark and also a wide range of color saturations it’s looks better once you tweak it to match other imagery.

    – A number of people have suggested that photos which are already funny are harder to work with. I think the idea is that a photo which is intentionally composed to tell a joke has a narrow focus already and might be hard to deconstruct and repurpose. I think that can be the case for elaborate setups, say groups of people dressed in costume. But if you can see a way to pull elements out of a funny photo someone can probably work with it.

    On the “oh cool” bonus front…

    – Extra images from a photo shoot showing the same imagery from a different perspective, with things shifted a bit, obvious passage of some time, etc… are all great. If you provide a link to more photos related to the image you posted it could help a PS’er create a composition where design elements are rotated slightly, duplicated but not identical, etc… Also, if some part of the primary photo does need reconstruction due to cropping, being partially obscured, etc.. the alternate photos might have elements that can be used.

    I’d also add that high quality background images are also fun. Many PS’s entail moving an image element into a new background or environment. Some specific examples from your anniversary thread (The first one is what really kicked this off. It is so full of win and I wanted to see if there were enough pixels to turn it into a textured overlay)

    Sunset by maced
    Virgin River by Ranger Joe
    Alleyway by sclark5150

    By no means an exhaustive list. Just three completely different examples of cool backdrop photos.

    #22915
    laz-long
    Participant

    To summarize, here’s what I’ve gleaned from this thread so far:

    Corrected Title (It took me forever to get this simple change through my thick skull. Sorry Curious and Choc-Ful-A. You are absolutely correct. It does run exactly like a theme when it?s properly titled)
    ? Theme: Photoshop/Farktography Mash Up. Combine two or more images from Farktography contest ?Homeless images?

    Sequence/timing
    1. The Farktography thread will post as normal.
    2. I’ll submit the PS thread a day or so before the Farktography thread with the understanding that it goes green for TFER?s at pretty much the same time as the Farktography thread hits the main page. Elsinore has volunteered to help with this part. (Thank you Elsinore. I can?t imagine having to do this part myself)
    3. The mangling begins
    4. PS Theme hits the main page in its normal sequence (about a week after the Farktography contest). Non-TFER’s might have to scramble a bit with their credits once they see the complete rules, but everyone had a fair start.
    5. Awesomeness ensues

    Rules to be posted in the PS thread:
    Our friends in the Farktography forum have graciously given permission for their photos in (Link to Farktography thread) to be mangled/enhanced/combined within reason. The rules are fairly open:
    ? Use two or more of the photos from (Link to Farktography thread) as O’s.
    ? Outside sources are acceptable as long as they are a minor part of the entry (Gold Krylon paint will probably have to shipped in, but complete elements from outside the thread are strongly discouraged)
    ? Please give credit to your sources by name and a link to the O (thumbnails would be extra nice if you have the bandwidth)
    ? If you haven’t done so already, don’t forget to vote for your favorite photograph(s) while you are perusing the O’s.

    Have I missed any points or misunderstood anything?

    BTW ? My Fark handle is Laz Long. This forum doesn?t allow the space. Sorry for any confusion.

    #22916
    olavf
    Participant

    except for the ‘within reason’ part I think you’re pretty much bang on. mangle away 😉

    #22917
    laz-long
    Participant

    except for the ‘within reason’ part I think you’re pretty much bang on. mangle away 😉

    Good call. Since that was part of the “NSFW” question, it can go away.

    #22918
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    Only final thing I would suggest is submitting the PS thread on the same night (Wed) or next day (Thurs) as the Farktography thread, then your submitted link will link to the Farktography thread itself, which makes more sense. You’d still have a week for TF’ers to read the rules and mangle away.

    #22919
    laz-long
    Participant

    Only final thing I would suggest is submitting the PS thread on the same night (Wed) or next day (Thurs) as the Farktography thread, then your submitted link will link to the Farktography thread itself, which makes more sense. You’d still have a week for TF’ers to read the rules and mangle away.

    Yes, that would make a bit more sense. 😳

    Just to double-check.. That will be Wednesday 6/24?

    #22920
    Elsinore
    Keymaster

    Yep. We post at 8pm for TF’ers, so anytime after the thread is posted will be fair game for you to post the PS thread. The Farktography contest hits the main page at 12:01am Thurs when liters can get in on the action.

    #22921
    mopsy
    Participant

    Would someone like to put this theme into plain English. I haven’t got a clue how to PhotoShop a photo if that is what this is all about. I have not missed a contest since I first started, but this may be the first. Bummer!

    #22922
    swampa
    Participant

    The theme is just post any photos you really like that you won’t mind if they get photoshopped later (there is our normal contest and then there will be a photoshop contest taking any photos from our contest and going nuts with them).

    #22923
    Choc-Ful-A
    Participant

    The theme is just post any photos you really like that you won’t mind if they get photoshopped later (there is our normal contest and then there will be a photoshop contest taking any photos from our contest and going nuts with them).

    Exactly! I can’t speak for everyone else. But all the other comments I posted were just ideas for people who needed to reduce a group of photos they like down to 3. Photos you like that you would enjoy seeing people use to create PS entries is the only real criteria though.

    #22924
    mopsy
    Participant

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Well, that makes sense. Now I’ll have to reread all the pages. What happens if someone’s photos aren’t picked up by a PS person? We enter 3, correct? Are we voting for everyone’s normal three entries and then voting a second time on the PS entries? OR just enjoying the PS entries? It probably explains all that in the discussion thread. Time to reread!!!!

    #22925
    mopsy
    Participant

    Opps! Guess Choc-Ful-A just answered my question about entering 3 photos!

    #22926
    Choc-Ful-A
    Participant

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Well, that makes sense. Now I’ll have to reread all the pages. What happens if someone’s photos aren’t picked up by a PS person? We enter 3, correct? Are we voting for everyone’s normal three entries and then voting a second time on the PS entries? OR just enjoying the PS entries? It probably explains all that in the discussion thread. Time to reread!!!!

    Here’s how I understand things will work…

    The Farktography and PS contests each work like a normal contest. For the Farktography contest that means we all submit up to 3 photos, and any can vote for as many as they like when the contest goes live. The votes are tallied like normal. For the PS contest that means anyone can enter as many PS creations as they want. TF’ers can enter as soon as the contest is scheduled and non-TF’ers get to add theirs when it goes live. At that point anyone can vote for as many entries as they like.

    So yes you can vote on the Farktography contest and the PS contest. The PS contest will go live roughly 5-7 days later, but if you are a TF’er you can check the entries from time to time before that if you like.

    And given the math involved I think it’s almost certain that a number of photos in the Farktography contest won’t be used in a PS contest. It’s nothing personal though. The number of photos entered in Farktography contests is generally higher than the number of entries in PS contests. So unless lots of PS’ers combine multiple photos, or there’s a higher number of PS entries than normal, that difference alone would rule out all photos being used.

    #22927
    millera9
    Participant

    Uhh… here’s a potentially dumb question… but what the hell are we voting on in the farktography thread, exactly? “Best” photo? Funniest? Most PS-able? What exactly is the criteria for what gets a vote and what doesn’t?

    Throwing a bunch of random photos into a thread and then telling people to vote is an interesting social experiment, but it’s a bit unnerving for those of us who actually pay attention to our “stats” on the FSM. (Yes, yes, I know; paying attention to farktography voting = doing it wrong.)

    #22928
    Choc-Ful-A
    Participant

    Uhh… here’s a potentially dumb question… but what the hell are we voting on in the farktography thread, exactly? “Best” photo? Funniest? Most PS-able? What exactly is the criteria for what gets a vote and what doesn’t?

    Throwing a bunch of random photos into a thread and then telling people to vote is an interesting social experiment, but it’s a bit unnerving for those of us who actually pay attention to our “stats” on the FSM. (Yes, yes, I know; paying attention to farktography voting = doing it wrong.)

    That’s a very good question and it’s tricky to come up with an answer for this contest in particular. In the end I think for this one, like most other broad/open themes, voters will rewards photos they like without considering how well they fit a particular theme. That’s just my opinion, so if this group wants to try to direct people to consider some other criteria, then let’s go for it. I just think we have limited influence over voters in general, and it’s even less for broad/open themes.

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