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ParticipantAwesome, something else to blame for my crappy shots! Didn’t turn out like I wanted? Must be a manufacturing variance. 😉
ParticipantCISS, Orionid–I don’t think we have as great a number of viewers as the IP’s suggest.
rav, resetting your IP from the neighbor’s WiFi won’t affect the IP that shows up in the logs unless the WiFi itself gets a new IP from the neighbor’s ISP (cable or DSL company). Same thing applies to using multiple computers while at work (depending on the size of the company). Most local networks use a protocol called NAT (Network Address Translation), which means there’s a difference between the internal or LAN address (which is usually a non-public IP like 192.168.*.*) and the external or WAN address of which the ISP doles out only one per customer (in general, for consumer accounts at least).
This will actually serve to reduce the number of unique IP addresses. For example, I’ve got several computers and phones/tablets on my home router and they’ll ALL show up with the same IP address in server logs because they all come from the same WAN address.
That’s not to say there aren’t multiple IPs per user. Using the cell network instead of wireless on a phone or work vs home computers are at least two possibilities. However, since we’re also hiding multiple unique people within the same household/network, I’m guessing the offset due to multiple IPs per person is significantly small.
If there were 2700 individuals, I’m pretty sure more than 1 of 100 would have clicked through, even at #9.
My experience shows otherwise. Even my most popular entries (including the eclipse shot that won twice) have extremely low “view large” counts. If you consider that it takes more effort to click through and view large than it does to vote and we can barely get people to vote, then it starts to make sense, I think.
ParticipantOn the topic of statistics, here’s some interesting numbers. My “NSFW” which was intended to get people to click, say “wha…? Oh! Pearl necklace! I get it! How clever!” had just over 1300 clickthroughs. Not 1300 views, but 1300 clickthroughs from either fark or fark mobile. Now, assuming each clickthrough is an independent person who was hoping to see boobies and left disappointed (although there might be some farkers with a makeup fetish who came back a few times), that means there are at least 1300 pervs on fark (we knew that).
But what it also shines a light on is just how many people view the themes and don’t vote. Bibliostats recorded 1230 some votes total. That means that if everyone who voted only voted for one photo (which we all know isn’t true), then at least 70 thread viewers didn’t vote. Given that a) the likelyhood of each voter voting for more than one photo is fairly high, and b) the likely hood that every thread viewer turned into a clickthrough on my photo is incredibly unlikely, that means we have a significant population of farktography voyeurs.
So….. How do we make them vote?
It’s much worse than that even. I pulled my server logs for this contest and from contest start until midnight Sunday, there were 2,068 unique IP addresses that viewed the contest. This is after filtering for myself, Fark’s link checkers, and other image bots like Google.
That’s going to include a few instances of multiple IPs per person due to the same person viewing from multiple devices, but that’s still somewhere around TWO THOUSAND people that viewed the contest. That’s nowhere near even 1 vote per viewer.
ParticipantCongrats to kashari on the individual win and to U-Man for the first in combined. The Weekly Reports post has been updated with the latest stats.
As Zero said, lots of good stuff this week, and lots of work required for this one so congrats to everyone who submitted. We ended up with 30 contestants and 73 entries, which ranks this contest at #9 for the fewest contestants ever and #14 for the fewest entries ever. However, and I think this speaks a lot about the effort put into this one and its subsequent appeal, it’s #118 when ranked by fewest votes ever.
Looking at it another way, this contest is the #5 highest ever ranked by votes/contestant (41.13) or votes/entry (16.9).
// aspidites, what happened?!? All of your entries disappeared about 4:30 this morning!
ParticipantIf you’re not looking for the absolute highest of quality, you can do that through WalMart. I’ve never printed calendars, but I’ve done lots of 4×6’s up through 8×10’s from my local WalMart 1-hour and they’re at least acceptable, especially for the price and convenience.
ParticipantEls, would you mind deleting my blank entry here? Sorry, had a hiccup with the host in the middle of posting. TIA!
ParticipantGot my three, two with normal borders and one with an “artistic” border. I’m pretty happy with them, but having seen the previews from y’all, I’m not sure how they’ll fare. Lotsa fun and lotsa work!
ParticipantI get “the look” whenever I do anything photo related. Welcome to the club!
Glad to know I’m not the only one.
It could be worse, though. Imagine your job is sitting at your computer all day and then try saying you’re going back down to the computer to “play” with your photos after dinner and see the look that gets you! 🙂
// Don’t intepret these comments as serious marital strife. I love my wife and it’s just one of the many compromises that have to be made in a relationship, as I’m sure you’re all aware.
ParticipantOh crap, are we allowed to use these types of frames? I just did ‘stroke borders’, nothing fancy or creative like that. Good link, thanks!
That’s a good question. Are the rules for frames relaxed in this one or are we still limited to small non-intrusive borders? I’m with kashari in that I assumed the frame rules weren’t changed so mine are all 5-pix lines.
ParticipantBut if we did that, I think the money made should either directly cover costs, go to funding Farktography in some way (maybe paying Zeke, schnee and CISS a stipend to defray hosting costs) or donate to an organization.
While I greatly appreciate the sentiment, I’m not sure there would be a fair way to do that since I also host other websites under the same account so it’s really not much of an additional expense at all. Plus, I think I’d feel pressure going “pro” to make more timely updates and feature additions, which in the end wouldn’t help accomplish anything other than making it less fun. Now, a Farktography party would definitely be something I could get behind (assuming it’s something we could get a large turnout for).
Keeping in mind how long it might be before it’s actually implemented, I could add something like a profile page to Bibliostats whereby everyone could link to their galleries to sell prints if desired. That way, those who want to sell would have a somewhat indirect link from Farktography to their sales without putting sales at the foreground of Farktography.
ParticipantWish I had time to help you, Kes, but I can barely keep my head above water on my day job right now. I’d be more than happy to help with any web-specific questions or advice, though.
Something to maybe consider if you’re looking to roll your own website might be a DotNetNuke site. There’s a LAMP-stack equivalent called PostNuke, too, I believe. This is an open-source content-management website framework with a ton of free and cheap add-on modules to cover everythiing from galleries to blogs to forums. Another framework that I’ve heard many people using is Joomla, which also has both Linux and Windows variants.
Good luck and best wishes on your new venture!
ParticipantI expect to be using Power Point and “save as” .jpg . It’s what I’ve got available. And it’s from Microsoft Office, so you know it’s got to be easy enough for a field grade staff officer to figure out.
For any of you running Windows and in need of an easy-to-use yet somewhat powerful image editing program that’s also FREE, I’d highly recommend Paint.NET. It was originally created as a demo project by Microsoft employees but has since been enhanced to be a complete application. I find it quite handy for doing simple tasks. Its filters and effects are not as nice or complete as PS, but the price is right.
ParticipantCongrats to rav on the individual first and to Kes on the firsts in both individual and combined. The Weekly Reports post has been updated with the latest stats.
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ParticipantUgh. CISS, I missed your post. Flying with a cold bites. Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks much, U-Man. After dosing up and sleeping pretty much all day Sat, the cold’s mostly gone. Wish I could say the same for the workload…
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