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That’s an interesting idea. If others here like it, I’ll bounce it off Drew and see what he thinks.

[Kestrana]

I don’t know for sure that the word copyright needs to be in there and there is enough information to suggest it isn’t necessary. So for anyone who has the same concern as Elsinore why don’t you replace the first paragraph of the form with the following:

I, _________________, the undersigned, being the legal copyright holder to the listed photographs does grant to Carole J. Montague, Drew Curtis and fark.com, their heirs, successors in interest, legal representatives, and agents, the full rights and license to use such photographs in conjunction with the planned publication of ?The Best of Farktography?. I understand I retain the original copyright and may license my work to others.

[Kestrana]

If anything in the document is still a question to you, feel free to ask here.

If you want to wait on signing the document there is no looming deadline and that is fine. I did ask for clarification from Drew so hopefully that will be back to me in the next day or two.

[Kestrana]

I’m going to post a couple FAQ threads to help people catch up instead of reading the whole thing.

[Kestrana]

Have you talked with the publisher about the form? I wouldn’t be surprised if they either had something already for this or would want their lawyers to write something up or at least look over whatever we’re using to grant permission to use our photographs.

I have no direct contact with the publisher, only through Drew but I’ve sent the earlier questions on to him.

[Kestrana]

Here’s one question answered about the legal issues:

When it comes to having a model release or property release we will not be requiring you to have either. You are still the copyright holder, we are merely licensing your copyright for this publication. The current version of the release absolves me, Drew and fark from any liability that might be incurred on your part from having the picture published. That means if you think your model, setting or subject matter might get you into trouble, you need to take care of that on your own by obtaining whatever sort of release you feel is necessary.

The legal form I’m using isn’t one of my own creation. It’s from the National Association of Press Photographers and is adapted to fit our needs by cutting out a section about how any text accompanying the photograph that may put you in a negative light blah blah blah wasn’t needed here. Where it says “the full rights to use such photographs and copyright same” I am told we need that language in order to obtain a copyright for the book because we are copyrighting the photographs in your name, and we need your permission to do that. The bottom line is, you are basically licensing your photographs to me for the book and I don’t care what you do with them otherwise nor do I have any intention of doing anything else with them, we just have to have a form. If we were self-publishing the form would basically say “yes i let you use my pictures” and that would be it.

If you are uncomfortable with anything in the legal release, don’t sign it yet. I’m waiting on responses back to earlier questions.

[Kestrana]

My records indicate I was able to get an email address for Veruca as well so we’ll see if they reply.

[Kestrana]

Awesome

And as promised a .pdf of the initial layout that I put together with input from Joe
I ganked all the images from the FSM or the contest threads and am just using this for planning purposes and the text on the cover is just temporary. Of course if you don’t give us permission for a picture it won’t be used.

http://www.kestrana.com/Farkbookv1.pdf

Looks good. I would suggest reworking the copyright notice. Saying it’s copyright to you, Drew Curtis, and Fark suggests you, Drew, and Fark own the photo copyrights, which obviously isn’t the case. I think it would probably be worded along the lines of “text copyright Kestrana, Drew, and Fark. All photos copyright their respective photographers who reserve all rights.”

You may or may also want/need a separate page at the back of the book listing the photos/titles/photographers for copyright notice. I’ve seen that in coffee table type books, but Joe would probably know more about that.

Good note about the copyright, I will change that.
We already planned for an index to support the copyright notice as you’ve suggested, if needed, and also so people can find their pictures quickly.

[Kestrana]

Okay, gave it a look-over. Path Less Taken 15 is okay, HDR 4 is okay to use. Definitely don’t use HDR 5; I can’t protect you from Getty’s lawyers. 🙂

If you guys need high resolution versions (most likely you will), just give me a holler at digicana@gmail.com (or PM here, I changed my profile email addy so it should go through now).

Note that there is no property release for the HDR 4 shot, though I do have a release for the model. Not sure how picky your publisher is on such things.

I sent you a PM on flickr so I will send you the form to the listed email. I doubt there will be an issue with the property release but I’ll check to make sure.

[Kestrana]

Worked fine for me in Chrome and Firefox but I did reupload the file, you probably hit it right in the middle. Try again.

[Kestrana]

Why haven’t you introduced me to *these* Navy friends?

[Kestrana]

Awesome

And as promised a .pdf of the initial layout that I put together with input from Joe
I ganked all the images from the FSM or the contest threads and am just using this for planning purposes and the text on the cover is just temporary. Of course if you don’t give us permission for a picture it won’t be used.

http://www.kestrana.com/Farkbookv1.pdf

[Kestrana]

I realize I opened up the door on this one but wow things went downhill fast!

[Kestrana]

The legal form that was included in the email only licenses the picture for this publication and any related materials only. The photographer retains the copyright to the image and can license the photo to anything else without restriction. I sent it to both Drew and Joe and neither of them had any corrections on it.

I did PM a lot of people on here but I will follow up the leads you have posted to try to get in contact with those people. I’m sure I’ll have to give a list to Drew but I’m trying to make it as short as possible.

[Kestrana]

Yeah it was Classic: Less is More II

Wait. Are we still talking about your boobies, or are you telling everyone about my endurance? :shock:[/quote]

Ravnostic will be so disappointed.

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