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Has anyone heard any news about a Canon answer to this; i.e., a new 5d model?

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Yeah, well, I’m writing a CPE for an enterprise POS using EF, WCF, and WPF communicating over TCP/IP and if the customer doesn’t see a ROI, I’ll be SOL. 😆

// Two can play at that game.

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Yugoboy, the downvotes didn’t hurt you this week (your entry was at 5th when they happened and stayed that way even after), but last week…

User=Yugoboy, ContestID=351, EntryID=74556423, Time=2012-01-29 01:15:00, Votes=33, Place=3
User=Yugoboy, ContestID=351, EntryID=74556423, Time=2012-01-29 01:30:01, Votes=30, Place=5

That’s one of the things that’s puzzling though and makes me think it’s more likely a glitch of some kind – unless they have multiple accounts, how can one person remove THREE votes from the same entry? And if it’s not one person, then what are the odds that three different people did it within the same 15-minute time period?

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As I understood it, you have a limited amount of time after voting to “undo” that vote. But it’s on the order of 15 seconds after you hit the vote button.

Just tested that and was able to unvote after 12 hours…

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Good point, I honestly haven’t tried to unvote after any period of time and it hadn’t occurred to me that it’s timed like that. The other possibility I thought about was if someone got banned/deleted. If they had voted, would their votes disappear? All of these types of questions are why I really tried not to be accusatory in stating the facts, merely pointing out the possibility for abuse along with what actually happened.

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Interesting. I think that’s about the same time that I voted, but I swear it wasn’t me.

I will confirm that that’s true. All 3 of yours took a hit like most everyone else.

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CISS, I initially missed your message to which orionid refers. I don’t want to know either – but if the data over the several themes point to a single person upvoting at the general time that others are getting down voted perhaps a Private Message to that person would help. I don’t think you can absolutely prove anything. And I’m not asking you to be a cop, but a “here are the facts I have noticed” type message might help.

There wasn’t enough of it in past contests to detect any kind of trend, but even if I knew unequivocally that it was one person and it was done intentionally, I wouldn’t out them here. Like I said, it’s just not worth the loss of comraderie here and possible ill feelings.

Also, is there any indicator for how I have voted that I can see. I mean, let’s say I really like a pic and vote for it and then I came back a couple days later and still really like it but can’t remember if I voted for it or not. If I click “Best”, I am actually inadvertently removing my vote.

Hmmm. I use IE9 and while it’s not starkly different, it’s pretty easy to tell an entry I’ve voted for versus one I haven’t:

The top entry is unvoted and the bottom is Best voted. Note that in addition to the color change, the text also goes from “Best” to “Best!” and when you hover over it before voting, it changes to “Best?”.

Maybe it’s javascript related – do you have javascript disabled on Fark?

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And now for a bit of mystery tinged with controversy. Last night between the 11:30pm and 11:45pm (Farkistan time) scans, 85 votes were removed. For those who may not have noticed, when Fark moved to the Best and Funny voting system, it also turned the vote buttons into toggles, so even long after you’ved voted for an entry, you can come back any time before the contest closes and remove your vote.

You can see it in the voting charts; at 11:30 there were 1449 total votes and at 11:45 there were 1367. But that’s only 82 votes difference, those math whizzes among you are saying, and you’re right, but that reflects 85 votes removed and 3 votes added. Yes, the 3 votes added all went to the same person and I’m not naming names because A) I have no idea if this is the result of a glitch in the voting system, an intentional attempt at manipulation, or just merely coincidence; B) I don’t want to muddy the otherwise friendly waters here; and C) even if intentional, there’s nothing technically illegal about it per the current voting system.

So I did some research to see if this has happened before since moving to the new system. It happened twice to two people during contest #347, 3 times to two people during contest #349, twice to the same person in contest #350, 7 times to three people in contest #351, and of course 85 times across almost everyone in this contest, #352.

Is it an attempt by someone(s) to manipulate the contests? Is it a glitch on Fark’s side? Is it just an absent minded voter who forgot they already voted and isn’t paying attention to that fact that they’re now unvoting instead of voting again? Who knows.

What I do know is that it’s possible, and like I said even legal technically, to cast votes for everyone early in the contest and then come back later at the end of the contest and selectively unvote. What I also know is that I absolutely do not care for this feature of the new voting system, even above and beyond the issue of Funny votes vs Best votes.

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Congrats to U-Man on the sweep of both individual and combined. The Weekly Reports post has been updated with the latest stats.

Congrats Yoyo on the funny win and to loki on your overall performance. That’s your best combined finish in a while, and here you were just recently feeling down about your entries! Even tho the Love Life guy placed ahead, my favorite was the cowboy.

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Be sure and get my edited version – the version in the original post link worked but I forgot to turn off HTML in that post so it screwed up the script. It’s fixed now.

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Ha! You didn’t really think I’d let it get the best of me, did you?

javascript:var%20n=0,p=0,lv=0,x=$(‘td.commentHeaderRow[colSpan=”3″]%20font’).each(function(){n=n+1;var%20a=$(this).text();a=a.substr(0,a.indexOf(“%20″));if(a!=lv){p=n;lv=a}var%20b=”th”,d=p%25100;if(d20){var%20c=p%2510;if(c==1)b=”st”;else%20if(c==2)b=”nd”;else%20if(c==3)b=”rd”}$(this).before(‘‘+p+b+”%20Place%20(Entry%20#”+n+”)“)})

For those who don’t know what that is, here’s a link to my original post about it (keep in mind this is all pre-Bibliostats).

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That magic place-showing button you coded and I linked in my shortcut bar brokem too :{

Yeah, I was gonna ask if anyone still used that. The problem is that the voting “bars” used to be uniquely identified so the script could find them all easily. After the change, that’s no longer the case. I’m not a jQuery expert (which is what that script relied on), so it’s not just a simple fix. I’ll see what I can do…

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And finally, the results are impressive on multiple levels. It’s nice to see a group of people having fun doing something creative that’s often a solitary pursuit. And I loved seeing all the different perspectives and treatments from the various photographers, sometimes of the exact same location/subject. When collected together like that it really does feel like a photo documentary of an event.

Yep, what Choc said. Really nice set of photos and looks like a fun time was had by all.

Yaknow, we have enough folks within say, six hours of anyfreakinwhere in NM or southern CO to pull off a 2-3 day hike/camp/day/night group photojourney.
edit:Taos and the surrounding area could be a lot of fun.

It’d be more than 6 hrs for me, but depending on, well frankly, a lot of things but timing primarily, I might be interested in such an endeavor. Always wanted to explore more of NM.

Another alternative that I’ve suggested half-heartedly before but am sincerely interested in with the right group of folks (i.e., folks like chup that know what they’re doing with astrophotography and from which I could learn a thing or two) is the Okie-Tex Star Party that’s held every year in the OK panhandle. Supposedly some of the darkest skies in the lower 48.

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Notice any difference in the Fark pages tonight? The stats scraper sure did. Lots of major non-visual changes. Have I mentioned how much I love it when that happens? Just came down to make sure everything was running smoothly before heading to bed and then 2.5 hrs later, it’s finally working again. *sigh* Anway, that explains the gap in the voting charts.

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That first alternate…looks like he’s getting ready to cut himself a nice prime hand steak.

Yeah, between the look on his face and the way he’s holding the knife, it kinda looks like he might be fixin’ to cut hisself a fellah. Perhaps that guy with the camera who just blinded him with his flash. 😕

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