[Kestrana]

It’s very light. PM me your shipping address and I’ll see how expensive it would be to mail it.

[Kestrana]

It totally does. You have suburban housewife lovebirds.

[Kestrana]

Woops!

Please delete my 2010-07-07 08:09:27 PM – it’s a dupe from A day late and a dollar short.

So would you say it’s now a day early and a dollar extra?

[Kestrana]

The link you posted there goes to a dead thread for me O.o

[Kestrana]

orionid suggested pictures and brief bios about the photographers in the index

[Kestrana]

Ok here are the questions I asked and Drew’s responses, we can decide where we want to go from here:

Kes: First about the licensing aspect of photographs. It was suggested that as part of the TOS for fark, one released certain rights to the picture by posting it, but clarification is necessary. The last topic of discussion was making it a “2009” edition using top 10s and other images as vetted by the Farktography forum as some of the older contributors have disappeared and may be difficult to track down if we actually need to solicit permission from the individual photographers.

Drew: I can assign the farktog mod to locating those people. If we can’t find em we can’t use it, if we can we need permission.

Kes: We’d also want to know how many pages the publisher was interested in or how many photographs. Between 578-1106 photographs has been debated but the total would depend on the size and price point the publisher was willing to print at.

Drew: I can find out the pagecount, can you (plural) write up a book proposal for it? Consists of 2 things 1) a short description of the book and why it will sell and 2) a sample chapter. My guess would be smaller is better, or for a better idea check and see around what size is typical for this kind of thing. Finally, we’ll get a headcount of folks who will commit to buy so we can throw this over the edge. Because if we have buyers, it doesn’t matter if they’re convinced it’ll sell or not – becomes a moot point then

Kes: Will we do the book design ourselves or will they have someone do it for us, we just provide content or something in the middle?

Drew: It’s probably better to design the book in house, publishers have folks who can do it but they generally suck ass. They’ll tweak it anyhow so it’s good

Kes: Should we have textual blurbs from the photographers talking about fark/photography or just images? I think you might have to write us a foreword :DDD

Drew: I have no idea there. If it looks good and helps the book, then yes

Kes: Our plan for book revenue had been to donate to charity, obviously if we’re fulfilling your contract that’s part of your livelihood but I don’t think any of the farktographers expect to be paid. That may open them up to doing a larger book that would include more people at lower cost to themselves because we are voluntarily giving up rights for the book but I’m no expert in how these things work, so we’d have to learn about that too.

Drew: fulfilling my contract is good enough for me, I think we should probably skim off a little and have a big ass party somewhere but that’s totally up to you guys. I don’t need any money as this won’t cost me anything (probably). If anyone wants to be paid that’s fine by me too, I really am not worried about it one way or the other

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So what does this mean?
– We need to decide on the format of the book/how we’re going to choose pictures.
– We need to write up a proposal for the book and create a sample chapter.
– We need a commitment from people over how many potential copies they might purchase so we can give the publisher some idea of their sales.
– We need to plan a Farktography book launch party!!!! (ok not so important but yay)

[Kestrana]

actually I really like the idea, in fact I’m contractually obligated to do another book with the current agent and wouldn’t mind running this thru them to get out of it if that’s cool with you. Just lemme know what you guys need and I’ll get the ball rolling with an established publisher

I condensed the questions we had in this thread and replied but it looks like we may actually be able to go big time(ish)!

[Kestrana]

It’s hard not to get hung up on the voting because we all want to do well, we all start off with pictures we think will do well and then we’re shamed and honored by the company we participate with. If I’m not doing so well in the week’s contest I tend to go out and shoot because then I can feel good about the new things coming out of my camera and not dwell on it. Looking at my Flickr I can see definitive improvement in my photography from last September when I first started; this set http://www.flickr.com/photos/kestrana/sets/72157623542251562/ is a good example (it’s ordered newest to oldest). I’ve (grudgingly 😉 ) seen improvement in you from when you started already. I even said so to orionid when I saw your airplane lights picture from All Night Long.

[Kestrana]

And also that’s just my opinion, take it with a grain of salt. If you look in my FSM you’ll fine plenty of pictures I found compelling that the voters didn’t. orionid calls this “Fickletography” some weeks and that is a very apt description. In the end, enter the pictures you like best that showcase your eye and your growth as an artist and you want to share with this tiny corner of the world. Damn the votes; full speed ahead.

[Kestrana]

Maybe use the black and white one for blur, I can see it fitting well there. I also have some mountains but I don’t care how many other mountains there are, I’m still entering mine!

[Kestrana]

BTW I still have the Farkholga. thepostess never got back to me, so is anyone else interested in using it?

[Kestrana]

So I actually messaged Drew on Facebook about this idea today. Let’s see what happens

[Kestrana]

I like the B&W version better than that color version but I just think the subject isn’t that compelling for this particular contest

[Kestrana]

I like the mountain better

[Kestrana]

Those responsible for sacking those responsible for looking up n?rdic letters have been sacked.

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