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November 6, 2011 at 11:36 pm in reply to: Shooting Models… That sounds wrong… Photographing Models #42516
Yoyo
ParticipantI like formal portraits, and those comprise most of my experience working with professional photographers, so that’s why I bring those up as examples.
CSB: Just this morning, I ran across a photo-journalist when my roommates and I were visiting the mosque this morning for second Eid. He took some shots of my roommate praying with the locals. But that’s not really what I would consider working with a model. My roommate didn’t even realize it was the journalist, and not me, taking his picture until after he was done praying.
November 6, 2011 at 9:29 pm in reply to: Shooting Models… That sounds wrong… Photographing Models #42513Yoyo
Participant… One lesson I learned is that “go stand over there” is a surprisingly good place to start with a model. At least they will adopt a natural pose and you can tweak from there.
…I was reading a piece written on portraiture by a photo journalist, and the crux of the piece seemed to be about what to say first to the newsworthy person he was assigned to photograph. “Go stand over there,” seemed to be his best suggestion as an opening line. It put people at ease, and he could start snapping some pictures before they got the idea of posing in their head. It also allowed him to make sure the exposure and focus were correct, etc. Unfortunately I can’t recall who he was.
In regards to looking like a professional, I would say act the part. Go into the shoot well prepared with a plan of what you want to do. Just like being a professional in any other collaborative venture.
When I want to avoid looking like a schmuck in my day job, I do the prep work, because that is my job as an professional. Take for example a road reconnaissance. I plan the route, estimate distances and times, collect the report forms and fill out as much as possible before the mission begins, verify the communications plan, consider alternate routes and bypasses, etc. My driver is also a professional, and I can depend on him to have the truck ready to go at the departure time, and he does. Then when we’re actually out on the mission, things flow smoothly and quickly. We return to base, and I complete the reports quickly while my driver cleans up the truck and preps for the next mission.
How does this correlate to a photo shoot? Rehearse in your mind or in your hands what you want to do before the model shows up. Know what lenses you will be using, how the lighting will be setup, where you expect the model to stand and how you want him or her to pose, how long the shooting will last, etc. When the time for the shoot arrives, be in the right place at the right time with the right equipment (and the right attitude: confidence). Afterwards (in a time-for-prints scenario) know what post processing you want to do, what size prints and how many, how long printing will take, when you estimate delivery to the model,…
Now, the true mark that separates a professional from an amateur, is that the professional (in any field) did all these things that I mention so long ago and so often that they make it all look flawless every time. The last time I went to a commercial studio for my portrait, the photographer was quick, confident, organized,… My only suggestion to her was to stuff a bent wire coat hanger under the US flag so it drapes more widely from the pole. She already had the flag in her studio for the occasional patriotic shoots, like soldiers in uniform.
My official portrait was taken care of by a guy at White Sands Missile Range. (Their photo quality is second only to the Yuma artillery test center, if that.) I had no appointment. (I was there to get my teeth cleaned and stopped off at the photo office to see if they could squeeze me it.) It took about 15 minutes total, and at least 5 minutes were spent looking for the template for the name/SSN/date/etc. that I have removed from the upper corners. Their back drop is even torn by my right ear, but that took less than 30 seconds for them to fix in PS. The shoot was much faster than I expected. “Stand on the box, turn that way, let me put this piece of tape on your coat to keep it closed in front, lower your chin.” Click-click-click, done. The fact that the guys in this shop spend most of their days doing graphic design for whatever-heritage-month and taking pictures of supersonic missiles in flight, but they can still swing for the fences on a spur of the moment portrait is why they get paid to do this every day.

portrait-blank by Kimo Sully, on FlickrYoyo
ParticipantFeels like it’s getting SO CLOSE now…
Close to what? The Cliffs of Insanity? Dividing by zero? Tearing a whole in the fabric of the interwebs?
You know, those don’t sound too bad as theme ideas, but alas this is the wrong forum for that. Not that you guys haven’t already derailed this thread like a cow on the rail line from Mumbai to Jabalpur.
November 6, 2011 at 4:07 pm in reply to: Shooting Models… That sounds wrong… Photographing Models #42510Yoyo
ParticipantModel Mayhem sight gets some bad reviews:
http://dwightmccann.blogspot.com/2009/08/model-mayhem-dont-expect-much.html
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.modelmayhem.com
http://www.listio.com/web20/app/ModelMayhem/I may just have to examine it for myself… when I get back to my bunk of course.
Why don’t the two of you just model for each other? Or perhaps ask your friends to model for you (before their weddings, or are those already past?). Other than that, I would recommend checking your local college or university to see if they have a fashion or photography program to get advice from regarding your locality. I know my local university art department often hires nude models for their life drawing classes. Exactly what sort of modelling are you exactly looking for? Hand models? Shoe models?
Yoyo
ParticipantI just got a free subscription to TF from ArmednHammered for Caturday submissions (I suspect). So a big shout-out to him for allowing me to wake up at 2 in the morning instead of 5 in the morning to post in Farktography threads. Unfortunately, the timing of the contest is not well suited for central Europe.
Yoyo
ParticipantCan I just photograph my slides on a light table for this one? My scanner broke. 🙁
I was just thinking about leaving the prints in their album and snapping shots with my DLSR.
Yeah, it gives crappy results with warpage and glare, but I was in a hurry and only had a few hours at home between trips. Otherwise, I’ve got nothing.
Yoyo
ParticipantCan someone provide me with the UTC offset for Farkistan? Of course, I have no idea where in the world I’ll actually be in 5 weeks.
Does Farkistan observe summer time? I always thought it was in the tropics. 😀
Yoyo
ParticipantI also support your distinction that the photos should be parts that together show a whole subject as opposed to three whole pictures of the same subject arranged together. If I read you right, you don’t want entries that look like a seamless arrangement or whole photo broken into pieces, even if it is from multiple frames. – This distinction would answer aspidites, yoyo, and gambitsgirl‘s questions.
I might rewrite the theme description as:
“Take three photos of different parts of a living thing or object and combine them in a triptych for a single fark-sized creation. As usual, you can submit three entries.”First off, my questions were if plants and demons were alive. And the way I understand my examples (Waterlilies by Monet and Garden of Earthly Delights by Bosch) they both show 3 different views of one thing. The water lily is the first thing, and the second thing is a bit more metaphysical. I sort of understand the idea that the submitter intended as evinced by the linked examples, but I think the expansion/change of the criteria/description/theme(?) would be more stifling than inspiring.
(Give me another minute to read the rest of this thread, and I’ll probably change my argument entirely.)
Yoyo
ParticipantMy intent was for it to be the local agricultural exhibit. Where I am, at the end of summer/fall there are agricultural fairs, where people used to exhibit what they’ve grown that year (or raised in the case of livestock). Now it’s more of a carnival with rides (and demolition derbies).
Well, the only county fair pictures I have are from Los Alamos, 2008. It’s such a peculiar county that it doesn’t seem to belong in New Mexico. The fair there has more of a scientific leaning than agricultural. I’m going to put up what I’ve got and let the voters decide.
Yoyo
ParticipantWhen I hear “triptych” I think of Monet. http://www.nelson-atkins.org/art/Exhibitions/monet/index.cfm (The Nelson is reason enough to live in Kansas City. Barbeque is just an added bonus.)
Am I on the right track? Plants are alive, right? Or is the pond not alive?Bosch comes in a close second. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights
Are demons alive or undead?Yoyo
ParticipantI can’t say that I’ve ever seen pictures of a 1/2 star hotel. Holiday Inn and the standardization it brought to the American hotel industry are both a blessing and a curse. A lot of character and soul has vanished.
October 29, 2011 at 10:43 am in reply to: 10-26-11 – Graves 3: Return of the Land of the Dead #41285Yoyo
ParticipantKestrana wrote:Oh whoops! Well congratulations to you, but yes I was actually replying to Yoyo. That’s what I get for posting from my phone, at work.
I’m not really complaining that the voting doesn’t go the way I expect it too, just that even when I try to estimate my own results based upon past contests, I still fail. I guess I am just different than the rest of the farktographers out there, and that’s ok.
I have my own reasons for taking the photos I take and their style. I understand the rule of thirds, but I prefer the rule of halfs so when I go back to a photo, I am reminded that what I wanted to record and remember in smack dab in the middle of the image.
My last job involved me submitting a weekly photo progress report of the projects I led. I would visit the work sites almost every day and snap some pics. Then Wednesday would roll around, and I would down load my images and ask myself, “WTF was I trying to capture in this shot?” Some weeks I would sit down and in my office only to realize that I’ve got nothing to illustrate what I wanted to highlight. Argh!
Yoyo
ParticipantI have been procrastinating going out to shoot this thinking I had another week for some stupid reason so all I have are archive shots.
My shot of the general’s grave was sort of a target of opportunity. Tuesday I had to make a trip to the airport, and on the way back my driver and I stopped at a gas station to let some other vehicles drive by. Lo and behold, right across the street was this monument. I should have started a photography club as an excuse to get off base and spend quality time taking pictures.
My other two are from R&R vacations. I am always amazed by how my shots rank among the voters compared to how I think they will. Even when I try to think like how I imagine the Fark audience will, based upon past results, I still get things backwards.
My Spanish chapel shots would have benefited greatly from a wider-angle lens. The Spanish cathedrals are absolutely amazing, and Burgos has almost completely restored theirs. It’s the current resting place of El Cid. It’s a bit creepy when you realize how many people are buried there. One chapel was completely ringed with wooden chests of drawers and portraits of the residents on the walls above them.
Yoyo
ParticipantI thought that the midnight was GMT, when it hits TF.
Yoyo
ParticipantI don’t want to be a nag, but just letting you know the link has not been greenlit yet.
Sorry if this is old news.
Ugh. This is the second time that I’ve woken up early to post pics only to be disappointed by my timing, or lack there of. It would be nice if Farktography would have a standard time for hitting the main page as well as TF. Or am I just clueless?
Now that it has dropped, for some reason, I had a heck of a time posting the “Unknown” image. Kept getting “image too large” result.
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