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ParticipantUm, actually a lot of those cheap modern kit zooms are optically better than their equivalent *professional* zoom lenses from the “good old days”, even if they are built like crap. Lens design has improved enormously in recent years.
Granted, but that is an aspect of technology, not design. What I am saying is the companies are intentionally putting out an inferior product because there is an option to make more money that way. Twenty or thirty years ago there were high end lenses, but the mass market lenses were not built intentionally substandard in order to drive the high end lens market.
ETA: I am particularly talking about the Canon EF-S Series, I’ve no experience with Nikon gear. After shooting with the EFS lens and shooting with even a midrange EF mount, the differences in design and construction left me feeling as though Canon said “Here, try this piece of crap, it will make you buy something better”. So, you go out and buy an EF lens and say “Wow! This is good, I wonder what the “L” is like” Soon you are selling your organs on the black market to buy another L
ParticipantYou actually CAN get manual focus only DSLR lenses…as I understand it…ultra fast primes by Leica. As you might expect, the start price is in the $5k. As to the difference between contemporary kits and premiums vs older film mounts, I think the real answer is “Because they can”.
Back in the day (we wore an onion on our belt because that was the style then) companies produced lenses with good optical quality because that is what people demanded. Today, people with Point and Shoots and cellphone cameras have swallowed the low end market completely, no need to make quality for people that are shooting the equivalent of Polaroids of their two years old’s birthday party. (NTTAWWT) The mid-tier market has been sold that megapixels are the only important factor in taking a good photograph. They buy the kit lens that comes with their DSLR, which takes “good enough” photos, maybe a lower end zoom and call it a day. Which is fine. So Canon/Nikon/Pentax don’t spend a lot of money on those kits because they don’t have to. They are a loss leader, slap the lens on the body, and people will buy it because “Look it comes with a lens”.
Premium glass (and I have only the my f4 70-200L and my f.28 Sigma 24-70…which not “really” premium”) is a specific market for photographers who A.)Really care about image quality and/or B.)have gear acquisition syndrome. In essence, they created a whole new market of high end customers by shorting people on the initial purchase. When we were buying film frames, they were simply making better lenses because some marketing genius hadn’t sold his soul yet.
ParticipantAre you using Flickr? Because if you are, and have a Pro account, use the Original photo not the “Large” size on Flickr, they pad the file with a ton of useless crap, ballooning the size.
ParticipantMy original thought for this one was “WTF? I don’t have ANYTHING for this week”. Then I started parsing my archive and was shocked by how many photos I have of cracked walls, broken windows, discarded toys, strange signs, architectural oddities and just plain junk that I looked at and thought “Wow, that looks cool, let them take a picture of that”. Now I know why people stare at me when I am down on my knees on a busy street, leaning sideways trying to frame something they don’t even know exists.
One would think this behavior would not be THAT strange in New York.
ParticipantThis week was an amazing example of what Farktography can do. Well done all! I am thinking we have the first thread of the next Farktography book!
ParticipantI posted this in the PSAEF, where the mystery is just being noticed. Here is my answer:
I THINK I’ve cracked this mystery. After searching Flickr’s Forum this is the gist of what goes on:
Upload Original File at X=Dimensions and Y=File Size
Flickr sharpens, adds metadata and re-compresses file size to display at Small/Medium/Large and Original Sizes. The X/Y changes because of that extra data and re-compression by Flickr, and because re-compression of a compressed file can INCREASE file size and the added data the huge Kb jump in size. The original file you uploaded should not have changed in any way, BUT only the paid Pro accounts have access to the Original File. Free accounts using the Large size, close to or the same as the X/Dimension are only able to access the Flickr modified file.I checked this on several files and found the original file size only slightly increased compared the “Large” version of the same file on Flick=HUGE size increase.
Pro Account users Fark optimize your pics for pixels and bytes, link that file from Flickr, it should meet the Fark posting limits.
Yeah…that’s a pain in the tuckus.
ParticipantIn case anybody was wondering…
Seriously, I didn’t know that was a model when I saw it in the thread! I was thinking “Wow, that is awesome, it must have been some sort of show or celebration!” Win! for the photo and doubleplus Win! for the model work.
ParticipantI would like thank ravonistic for the earworm in tonight’s thread. I love the entry, it’s brilliant, but damn you for making me sing that song all.freaking.night.long.
/but that won’t keep the boys from making a buck or two
ParticipantWhere it says “the full rights to use such photographs and copyright same” I am told we need that language in order to obtain a copyright for the book because we are copyrighting the photographs in your name, and we need your permission to do that.
Hmm I haven’t seen the release, but I would think it would be worded as license rather than copyright, that if it says you have the rights to use *and* copyright, that sounds like the photos are being copyrighted to you/Drew/Fark (which is not the intent, I know). Damn I hate legalese…
It’s one of those cases that we’ve got to put our trust in Drew. I feel like a member of the clergy, the First Church of Fark, may Drew be with you, my children.
/Ahhhhhhhmennnnnnnnnn
ParticipantYou know, it is things like this that makes the rest of the services tell jokes about you guys! 🙂
This coming from the chair force?
Yup, I was a fearless chair pilot, suffering with air conditioning and cable TV for ten long years. 8)
ParticipantTonight really pushed me back into the archives, the newest picture in the set is fourteen years old.
/get off my lawn
ParticipantI love it when you guys make me dig through the archives for something silly and stumble across other forgotten silliness. Which brings up a question. Elsinore, would this be too much man-crack for fark?
Submarine weapons of ass destruction (mildly nsfw? if you work with prudes)
You know, it is things like this that makes the rest of the services tell jokes about you guys! 🙂
/ex-AF Zoomie
ParticipantGot the email, just need to print, scan and sign, look for the hi-res, do you want tif or jpg?
ParticipantNo one has asked the obviously important question – did you go topless????????
I am all for solidarity, but I feel as on observer and recorder, impartiality require keeping my shirt on. Plus…well, considering age and beer, I didn’t want the ladies to feel insecure about size, I kept my shirt on.
20k, 70k on ONE photo…wow, I am trying hard enough!
ParticipantWhat’s your vector, Victor?
We have clearance, Clarance.
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